Over the weekend I received a series of lengthy comments from ‘D’. They were mostly repetitive in nature and included large quotes from material I previously posted in https://outofmypantiesnow.wordpress.com/2013/07/09/they-are-out-there/ , a post dealing with sexual criminal behavior by crossdressers. In lieu of releasing the full comments (long, repetitive) I will be posting a general response to the overall points raised by ‘D’:
I agree, if I had not limited my online searches to crossdressers/transvestites, I would have certainly found either more than 100+ crimes in 2 hours or I would have found 100 in significantly less time. Crossdressers represent a small percentage of the overall population, 2-2.5%, so obviously there will be a lower number of sex crimes than the general male population.
You are right, crossdressing does not automatically lead to criminal sexual behavior, as defined by current laws. There is, however, both proven correlation and causation. Psychological material consistently reports the high incident of co-existing secondary parapillias of voyuerism, exhibitionism, advanced stage (sociopathic) narcissism and BSDM with both consensual and non-consensual partners. The same material also notes the need, on the part of the diagnosed, to escalate to higher and higher risk activity in order to satisfy their compulsions. This risk taking behavior is what leads to criminal sexual behavior. Psychological material also describes how repetitive practice of compulsive behavior reduces self-awareness of the antisocial aspects of the behavior, making it increasingly likely that the crossdresser will fail to see any harm in his escalating behavior and increasing his risk taking. Along the lines of the Internet porn addict justifying his behavior with “everybody does it” as he advances from cleavage shots to penetrative sex to BSDM acting to footage of actual rape.
The correlation of crossdressing with criminal sexual behavior is similar to that of an Internet search ‘accountant+malfeasance+financial fraud+charitable organizational bankruptcy’. The person in the best position to steal money from a charitable institution is the accountant who does all the bookkeeeping with little, if any, knowledgeable oversight. There is an inherent risk, so there is a natural correlation. Crossdressers are practicing a sexual arousal based compulsion which escalates over time. It will get worse, in one way or another.
Every crossdresser IS a pervert, that is the definition of paraphillias. I am not suggesting we take them out and hang them, I am acknowledging that they have a psychological disorder which needs support and treatment. I don’t support turning your back on someone in need when they are working to change. If you are eager to stop crossdressing and are willing to do the work needed to overcome this disorder, I applaud your wife and family for supporting your efforts.
The point I was making with my earlier post is not that sexual crimes are committed by people in general, but rather that some crossdressers DO escalate into sexually criminal behavior. Furthermore, that opening public accommodations specifically segregated for females to males, on the basis their their self-identification as “women”, will increase the prevalence of this sexually criminal behavior, from both crossdresser escalation as well as other sexual predators who will choose to use this loophole to further their agendas.
Crossdressers aren’t born, they create themselves, through repetitive practice of dopamine-reward behavior. People are born. Their biological sex is either female or male, and in the extremely rare occurrence, intersexed. Your birth sex is one of the previous. Gender is a socialization process. No one, regardless of their birth sex, is born with pre-evolved social stereotypes.
Your desire to be a feminine male is perfectly fine with me. You should feel free to wear all the pink g-strings, purple thongs and sheer lace that International Jock sells. You are welcome to wear pink striped seersucker suits in the summer and brilliant royal blue v-neck sweaters in the winter. Carry a murse. Throw on a colorful scarf. Slip into some red, sour apple green or aqua blue shoes http://www.wwd.com/footwear-news/fashion/mens-must-buy-bright-saddle-shoes-6325288 .
Your choice to insult me by caricaturing hyper-femininity and claiming that it makes you feel like a woman in not acceptable. It is blatant, sexist discrimination. It’s ridicule and misogyny. And the fact that you don’t see how this behavior insults and demeans women is exactly why it should be classified as a hate crime.
I know plenty of “men who are attentive, loyal, loving, caring, respectful, honest, etc.” They managed to develop these attributes without sexualizing women, that you cannot is the reason your behavior is classified as a psychological disorder.
I don’t care how much pain or distress my husband may have experienced during his life due to this disorder. Nor do I need to learn any more about Transvestism. The facts of this disease have not changed in a century and all contemporary research continues to support the sexual origins. My husband is a highly intelligent, well educated man with both the financial resources and social awareness to have addressed this before he ever met me. He chose not to change, but to continue to indulge himself.
He’s a pervert who insults women. I have self respect. GAME OVER
Keep playing pantypopo because whilst I took the time to read your post thoroughly and to provide a detailed response to every aspect of your diatribe, you plainly did not read all of mine, or you would not have had to have typed much of your lenghty message.
There are things you have typed in your reply that plainly do not correspond to things I have said and again, as with your initial message, your rant looses its effect
I’m glad you agree that I am right on so many points I made though. It is a bit of enlightenment for you and for your readers to realise that, despite your need to characterise, and criminalise cross-dressers in your original message, you obviously understand that not all x-dressers (can we argue even ‘very few’ cross-dressers) follow the path towards criminal sexual behaviour that you obviously believe they are destined to follow?
Your attempt to liken a man’s x-dressing as being a ‘hate crime’ .. fair dinkum – are you serious? Where is your mind at? I would suggest that you have a serious inferiority complex, not based on the fact that you are female but based on you as a person.
And my last point – where do you put female x-dressers in your spectrum of serious psychiatric perverts? And please don’t try to argue that they do not exist.
I am not talking about women who wear trousers and shirts as opposed to skirts and blouses because the trousers that women wear are obviously female attire desiged for women. I am not a person who throws out the argument that ‘women wear pants so why can’t men wear skirts’
I am talking about the women who obtain and strive for obvious sexual pleasure from wearing mens clothes.
What is your psycho-analysis of that type of behaviour? I can almost imagine you sitting there and coming up with some reverse argument about how these women are somehow insulting and demeaning women….. *sigh*.
My advice – if you want to create an argument with someone over something in which you have no direct first hand experience, you will never win because you don’t know what you are talking about, especially if you don’t bother to read a post fully and properly, and to comprehend the messages that are contained within.
If you think I missed something, you should re-read all my posts and related comments. If your question was already answered earlier, you’ll find the answer somewhere on here.
I dont have to characterize crossdressers as criminals, they do that themselvs. They also claim to be harmless and misunderstood. Your behavior isn’t harmless. Your psycho-sexual disorder is understood for exactly what it is, a perversion.
I’ve never met a woman who crossdresses in men’s clothing for sexual pleasure, nor have I found references for any in published studies. If you know of any, please ask them to contact Ray Blanchard, Ph.D, for an assessment. He can be reached at the University of Toronto, Canada.
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Recent studies have found that the amygdalla, thalamus, hypothalamus, INAH nuclei, bed nucleus of stria terminalus, neuron numbers in limbic nucleus, and overall brain size and brain shape are indeed dimorphic between males and females by way of epigenetics in utero. Further, every major medical and psych association agrees that gender identity is set between 18 months and 4 years old. Gender identity is the brain’s body map (this is why little girls pray for God to fix them, attempt to cut it off themselves, why trans boys react in prolonged horror at every period and bind their chest/crack their ribs with ace bandage).
Also, you confuse gender identity with gender roles. In addition to being the brain’s body map, gender identity is also a crucial component of one’s relational index. It’s not that girls are hardwired to like pink. It’s that girls are hardwired to be girls and that they bond with their perceived peers over common societal themes. A trans boy sees boys as his peers and will bond with them over any number of things just to fit in. The same for trans girls. This is why trans people persist across time and culture all over the world, from trans men of Tibetan tribes to Kathoie of Thailand to the two-spirit of North America to the Hijra of India.
It’s not about a particular role, it’s about body mapping and relating to peer groups.
re: the two-spirit people thing. Here is some interesting facts about the realities of two-spirit people, and their relationship to gendered stereotypes in Native American tribes. I suggest you read it:
http://culturallyboundgender.wordpress.com/2013/03/09/toward-an-end-to-appropriation-of-indigenous-two-spirit-people-in-trans-politics-the-relationship-between-third-gender-roles-and-patriarchy/
@ for science Brain size differences have long been documented, but the average 9% size variance between male and female brains matches the average 9% size variance between all organs, height and body weight. Bigger bodies develop bigger organs, brain included. There is no cognitive variation between the sexes due to brain size.
Detected brain “shape” variances are so small as to be immaterial and there is great variability across both sexes in the shape over time. Brain plasticity means that the shape, and functioning,of the brain changes over time as the brain is exposed to hormones and external factors. Primary among these is exposure to high stress situations.
Every medical and psych organization agree that SELF identity is established between 18 months and 4 years. SELF identity means self awareness, as in, ” hey, when I stick this thumb looking thing on the side of my hand in my mouth, I can both feel the thumb in my mouth and my mouth on my thumb. These things, thumb and mouth, are both part of me!” It means looking in the mirror and recognizing yourself, instead of thinking some strange kid is playing in your bathroom.
There is no innate gender identity. There’s no inner girl map. There is no inner boy map. Gender is a social construct. It is a system of behaviors, expectations, roles, appearances and limits which have been developed over time to control people.
How you relate to your peers, and even to total strangers, is your choice. It is not driven by any internal brain sex.
Uh, no… Contrary to that silly statement you just made, organ size does not automatically correlate to body size. And if it did, then you would be supporting my position, in that somehow Male-to-Female women still have Female brains in spite of larger body size.
Again, no… The American Medical Association, The American Psychiatric Association and The American Psychological association specify GENDER Identity as developed between ages 1.5 and 3 years.
Keep telling yourself that Gender Identity doesn’t exist, but trans people have existed across culture and time… because it’s not about any particular social constructs. And you *can* dismantle any social constructs without hating people. We do more to agitate those social constructs than you will ever know, lol. And even if we (and you) succeed in eliminating all gender roles, there will still be people who change their sex.
I hope you realize how the “Biology is destiny!” argument has been used in centuries past by men to keep women barefoot in the kitchen… because the Radfem argument amounts to “Biology isn’t destiny… Except for you!” Do you even consider yourself a Feminist?
But to be honest, the medical and scientific facts that disprove your position aren’t even necessary, because all people have the right to self-actualization. Feminism fought to earn this for women… all women… and has been largely successful. Any effort to eschew others’ rights in this matter will amount to an exercise in futility.